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I dislike death, however, there are some things
I dislike more than death. Therefore, there are times
when I will not avoid danger.
Mencius
Violence Scale/Use of Force
This page is under construction, but here is a rough draft of what is coming.
Violence Scale
I recently saw a horrible video
of a deranged man sitting on his wife's chest in the
Netherlands and stabbing her over sixty times. I should
point out that while it was terrible, it was to me, just
another day at work. "Yep ... that kind of thing
happens ... where's the coffee pot?" (I'm not
being cavalier or heartless. Being as I do expert
witness work in knife cases, seeing these kind of
horrible videos really IS part of my job. Coffee
drinking ... well that just helps me do my job).
I run a very busy e-mail list on personal safety,
self-defense, et all. What was the source of debate
among folks was the ineffective attempts by a few
bystanders to stop the attack on the woman. It's not
that they weren't trying to save her life (I believe --
amazingly -- that she lived), but they really didn't
have a response that was appropriate to immediately end
that level/degree of attack. As such the attack
continued for a very long time.
A few Americans (who had experience with this
level of situations) responded with "I'd shoot
him."
This brought a response from a British woman about the
knee jerk attitude of killing the man. Being as she had
never been in a life and death situation she (as near as
I can tell) honestly couldn't understand why other
alternatives could not be used to stop him before
resorting to blowing his brains into a fine pink mist.
The speed that these people came to the conculsion to
just kill the guy unnerved her.
While it would be easy to say it is the old "Americans
are gun nuts" and "Europeans live in a nanny state"
argument coming up again like an enchilda burp, I
don't believe it is. Having been to Europe several
times and dealing with both the general public and
different countries anti-terrorist squads, I can assure
you, that while the average European wouldn't have the
ability or will to shoot, those units would shoot
PDQ. In fact, they would shoot faster than most American
citizens -- even those with CCW permits. There are some
very seriously hard core Europeans protecting the rest.
But this woman wasn't one of them. As near as I
can tell, she really didn't understand why these people
were talking about killing this man outright instead of
trying other options or shooting to wound.
But stop and think about this, how different is her
reaction from the American media and 'community' outrage
everytime a police officer shoots someone? Why couldn't
they have used less than lethal force? Oh why oh why did
that poor innocent person have to die? (If by innocent
person you mean the crackhead with a knife who's
threatening people).
In attempting to explain to her, it dawned on me that
maybe this information needs to be dissiminated to the
American public as well. So if you've never understood
why the police shoot someone (especially with a knife).
Or, if you are yourself a meat eater and have vainly
tried to explain to someone why the level of force you
had to use was appropriate -- you might want to take a
look at the following model.
10
9
8
7
6
5
4
3
2
1
Each of these indicate a level of potential
threat/danger.
Levels 1 to 2 are issues that
can be resovled with a stern look.
3 to 4 go so far as a harsh
word.
5 to 6 require verbal threat
display (yelling screaming, etc).
7 is mild physical intervention
( a slap or 'sitting on someone').
8 is more force required.
9 is serious force.
10 is lethal force, immediately
applied and without hesitation
Very few people have any experience with anything beyond
level 7. This is important because basically past level
8, you are not playing for the same 'goals' as are
common for 7 and below. Therefore you cannot judge
level 8 and above by level 7 and below standards.
Below 7 the stakes are usually social status, pride and
maintaining social order. Past 8 the stakes are much
higher. In fact, level 10 boils down to what Martin
Luther King once said:
The question is no longer between violence and
non-violence; it is between non-violence and
non-existence.
That non-existence is either yours or someone else's.
Now slap your hand on the table again, that's how fast
non-existence can -- and does -- happen at level 10.
(For example, any one of those strikes on the woman
could have been the one that did fatal damage).
That slap on the desk is the amount of time yours
or someone else's non-existence is decided. It is that
extreme, and the stakes ARE that high. If you have never
faced this level of violence, it is difficult to realize
that the immediate application of lethal force IS a
rational and reasonable choice given the
parameters. It is in fact, the best chance for you
not to be numbered among the dead.
Level 10 responses are also based on a whole lot of
experience with intervening and having the guy turn on
you. NEVER forget this is a very real
danger. For example, an old friend of my father's was a
patrol cop. They rolled on a domestic violence call and
pulled up to see the guy on the porch with his wife on
her knees with a shotgun to her head. As they were
getting out of the car, he pulled the trigger. Looking
up at them he raised the shotgun towards them ...
At the inquest he was asked why he had shot the man six
times. He replied "I ran out of bullets."
He told me he'd just seen this guy shoot his wife in
front of cops and then point that gun at those same cops
... he didn't figure the guy wanted to talk. That's a
level 10 situation.
The last time I got shot at, I was doing bodyguard work.
I was escorting the client to her car when I saw the
laser site 'paste her' first and travel towards me. I
tackled her just before the guy opened fire. Rolling off
her, I got my own gun out and I returned fire while
charging his car. He floored it and drove away.
Level 10. And it went from walking to a car to a
firefight in less than two seconds.
A couple of years ago the Denver PD got a call about a
black kid trying to kill his mother with a knife. Upon
arriving the first officer through the door encountered
the kid, holding a big kitchen knife and standing less
than seven feet from him. The officers behind him
stopped him from retreating. He ordered the kid to drop
the knife, the kid took a step towards him. Level 10,
the kid was DRT (dead right there).
Later it was discovered that the kid was retarded. The
knife didn't have much of a point, yada, yada, yada. The
hue and outcry against why the police had to use lethal
force on the poor innocent child went on ad nauseum. I
went on TV and radio to explain to people that you can
get dead in the blink of an eye at that range with a
knife. And point or no, a 10 kitchen knife is a deadly
threat. While it was tragic that the kid died, it was
still deemed a clean shooting because of the known
circumstances at the time. The 911 call stated that the
kid was trying to kill his mother, the same kid had a
knife, refused a lawful order and approached the officer
in a confined space -- with that knife. The vocal
community however, didn't want to hear about that. (The
city of Denver later crucified the cop to appease the
'community' but they did it on issues not related to the
shooting).
My point is, that to people who have never faced a level
10 situation it is often difficult to grasp that
immediate lethal force IS the fastest, safest and most
effective way to save a life ... and quite often that
life is your own. They are still playing for the
standard goals of up to level 7. The simple fact is up
until about level 7 and 8 there are ALL kinds of other
options. From 8 up, there really aren't that many
options ... and usually the safest option is to get
there fastest and more effectively.
Realize that level 10 situations don't 'just happen.'
A lot has gone on before it got to that point.
While you may just have come around the corner and found
it, the guy who has taken it to level 10 has been
working it for a while. He's worked up to full steam and
if you have any hopes of either surviving -- or saving
someone else's life -- you gotta be able to
recogonize where you are transport intosame
mindset without diddly farting around.
If this video were a simple beating, then maybe a less
extreme response would have been fesible. If he'd been
just sitting on her chest punching her, then the
attempts of the people to stop the beating would have
been appropriate. But that's not what was happening. He
was sitting on her chest with a knife attacking her in a
vital target area. The fact that the womand didn't die
right there was amazing (he was actually kind of picking
at her with the knife). Realize however that with a
different style of attack or a lucky shot, even a 1/4
inch wound to the neck area can be fatal. This is
why when you are talking about level 10 situations, the
time it takes to slap your hand on the table can be
fatal is not hyperbole.
Let me also state that level 10 situations are rare.
Having said that, they do occur. And the use of the term
'rare' is relative. Overall they are rare, in other
circumstances/lifestyles they are common. In fact, in
some lifestyles/circumstances it is a survival trait. It
is only in comparison of those circumstances to
the myriad of other possibilities that make it rare
(e.g. every day a billion people get up and don't face
these circumstances, but a few hundred thousand do).
If you're one of those billion of people, it is often
hard to understand the conditions that those few hundred
thousands have to operate under. This is the source of a
lot of confusion and misunderstanding between those who
have been in level 10 situations and those who haven't.
Those who have never faced these extremes don't realize
that degree of force is the logical, rational and most
effective option. Remember, that extremes are
extremes because they take away other, more palatable
options.
So take this idea of a violence scale and next
time you hear people going on about a police shooting
try applying it to both the situation and what the
people are saying. I think you'll be surprised by the
difference in your thinking.
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